Monthly Archives: April 2008

Interview: Biggest Adjustment

This is the second in our four part series of interviewing people who are living or have recently lived in Mexico.

What was the biggest thing you had to adjust to in Mexico?

The biggest adjustment was learning the processes for accomplishing bill paying, garbage pickup, phone repair. Daily things that you don’t encounter when you’re traveling in Mexico.
Barbara Eckrote from Babs of San Miguel.blogspot

When we were in Mexico it was very interesting to see how bills were paid. In the US, you get mailed a bill. If you don’t pay it the service gets shutoff and you have to pay some type of expensive fee to get the service turned back on again in addition to paying the bill. This fee recognizes that it is expensive for the telephone, electric or cable company to turn your service off and back on again. Mexico’s infrastructure is built so it is not expensive to turn things on and off. Sometimes you would get a paper bill, but often you would need to just remember to go down and pay whatever you owe. If you didn’t that service would get cut off so you’d know to go pay it.

Probably the language difference.
Brenda from Brenda And Roy Going To Mexico

This was a challenge for us as well. We picked up quite a bit while we were there, but not nearly as much as we would have liked.

The inefficiency and corruption in government were hard for me to adjust to. I also had trouble with how poor service can be, at all levels. The concept that the customer is always right is not known in this part of Mexico.
RiverGirl from RiverGirl

The corruption was something that we didn’t have to deal with specifically, but it was very different. There is just a different attitude about being on the police force. While I’m sure that some officers have great integrity it appears that the standards of what is acceptable is much lower. Part of this comes from not paying high enough wages to police officers and expecting them to supplement their income through bribes. I’ve heard of some cases where a policeman is given his job, but with the condition that he pay the person who hired him a certain amount each month for the privilege of being employed.

I’ve had to become more patient with the way things work around here and had to try and let go of my strong feelings with regards to the way things “should work”. There are a lot of extra annoyances and stresses about living in Mexico. Generally those annoyances can be pretty funny and interesting when you first move here. But after a while, when you get into a routine of things and try to live a regular “real” life from day to day, they can be more and more annoying and stressful. So when the repairman says he’ll show up at 6 and never does, but decides to show up a week later unannounced, you have to really learn to roll with it. Sometimes I do….sometimes…. not so much! LOL!
Elizabeth from Mexico “Way”

We ran into this as well. At first it seemed obvious that if people would just do stuff the way we expected things would work out much better. Of course we didn’t tell anyone this, but you get use to the way things work in the States and assume everyone should follow the same protocol. After we had been there for awhile, more of the things that were different made sense.

For example, in Durango they have free trash pickup twice each day, but most of the streets don’t have signs.  I couldn’t figure out why they didn’t make people pay for the trash and invest in street signs.  However after being there for a while it makes sense.  People can still find their way around, but a lot of people wouldn’t want to pay extra for trash pickup, so it would just end up in the streets.

Easy. The traffic. Still haven’t adjusted.
Rosana Hart from Mexico with Heart

We generally avoided driving. The taxi service was good and we felt much safer with someone who knew how to avoid the other drivers. Once I was out driving with my friend and he warned me that I should yield to traffic at the next intersection. I didn’t see any signs so I asked how he knew that. He said “Everyone knows that the other street has the right of way.” He said it was probably on some map or something in the city records. For me that was a little scary and good reason to avoid driving more than necessary.

Can’t think of anything right now other than learning the language.
John Bokma from Johnbokma

John evidently had a very easy time adjusting. 🙂

Rudeness of people, especially in traffic. Inconsideration in general that manifests itself in countless ways.
Michael Dickson from La vida bougainvillea

When we were there we found things that seemed rude, but as we got to understand the culture better, we realized that some of the things we were doing seemed very rude to the Mexicans.

The traffic is a big issue. Coming from the US there is a very different standard of what is acceptable and it is difficult to get use to.

Learning Spanish – of course we knew we were just beginners but it was a significant stress not being able to communicate well and understanding so little of what people said despite studying Spanish six months before our trip and daily once we got to Mexico.
Jim and Mindy from Jim and Mindy in Rural Veracruz

I found that much of my study of Spanish was useless in real conversations. Either my accent was wrong or I was using a correct synonym that was so uncommon they had no idea what I was talking about. I became very good at charades however.

The increasing militarization of Mexico has been difficult. I have still not completely adjusted to having to pass through military roadblocks almost wherever I go.
Lynn DeWeese-Parkinson from Tijuana Bible

I wasn’t sure whether the military checkpoints should make me feel safer or more nervous. The only ones I remember going through were with our friends and were no big deal. It still seemed odd to see people with machine guns waving you over.

To be honest, I feel just as comfortable in Mexico as where I grew up in the UK or have lived in the US, if not more so. It’s actually quite hard to think of anything that really needed adjusting to. 

Witnessing levels of poverty absent or hidden in other countries, like kids of 7 selling chewing gum on the streets or flowers in bars late at night is something you never fully get used to and there are constant reminders of the huge divides and contrasts of a modern Mexican city like Guadalajara. That would be the major thing, and everyone has their own way of assuaging their first-world guilt.

On a more prosaic level though, some people take a while to get used to the food, I never had any problems and ate food from street vendors almost every day (the trick is to look for places with queues of locals). Drinking bottled water was new to me and having the water guy deliver gallon bottles every few days was odd at first but it’s not exactly life-changing. Driving can be tricky at major intersections, but despite Guadalajara’s ever rising levels of traffic, it’s still nowhere near as dangerous/ frustrating as it is getting from A to B in the SF Bay Area. Paying tolls to use decent motorways does take some adjusting though. If you’re planning a long journey you’ll need a lot of cash handy to pay the tolls for the extremely modern, well-equipped roads. However you can plan ahead with a handy new web tool from the Transport Department’s website that tells you how much the charges will be.

Gwyn Fisher from Gwyn’s Blog

We had reasonably good success with the food. I got really sick once and we aren’t really sure why. Bottled water was a little bit of an annoyance especially when you go out to eat. I generally drink a lot of water with spicy foods so I can easily spend as much on water as on the meal itself.

Looking back, there was really no major adjustment, because I was already sufficiently familiar with the country and knew what to expect.
Jennifer J. Rose from Staring at Strangers

Interview: Why Mexico?

Since we are back in the United States, I thought it would be interesting to do some interviews with people who are living or have lived in Mexico. This is the first of a four part series where we contacted a number of people and asked what it is like moving to Mexico.

What prompted you to move to Mexico?

I came to Mexico because I have loved the country for over 40 years and wanted to live in this culture.
Barbara Eckrote from Babs of San Miguel.blogspot

It is hard to underestimate the experience of living in a culture you love.

We were originally just coming to Mexico for one winter to escape our cold Alberta, Canada winter.  We fell in love with the area that we live in now and decided to retire early and move here.  I guess the main reason was the weather.
Brenda from Brenda and Roy Going to Mexico 

One of the advantages of Mexico is the ability to retire for less than you can in other countries. When we were in Durango the winters were cold, but nothing like Canada. However, the houses were all made to stay cool, so it seemed pretty cold even thought it wasn’t that bad.

My husband is Mexican, and we always planned to live in Mexico for at?least a few years.  We’ve been here almost 5 years.
RiverGirl from River Girl 

When we were in Mexico we met quite a few people who had moved there with their Mexican spouse. Marrying someone from Mexico can make it easier to adjust in some way. On the other hand you don’t necessarily get to go through culture shock together

I had taken my first vacation to Cancun, Mexico with a group of friends and upon my return I could not get Mexico off the brain.  During a discussion with a friend I made an off handed comment about how I should just move to Mexico.   His response was that I couldn’t do it and that I wouldn’t do it so I thought to myself, “Why not?”.  I promptly decided to move to Mexico for 3 months as a sort of “trial run” and when I returned back home, I decided I would pay off my debts, network, do more research, learn Spanish and wait for the right time and opportunity to move back for the long haul.  The time and opportunity showed up and I’ve been living in Cancun, Mexico for the last 5-1/2 years.
Elizabeth from Mexico “Way”

So basically Elizabeth moved to Mexico on a dare. 🙂 Well it makes for a great story.

We had spent a lot of time in Mexico and knew we liked it. Thought it would be fun. And mostly it is!
Rosana Hart from Mexico with Heart

One common theme I see with people who have moved to Mexico permanently is that they spent a lot of time there ahead deciding to move. This is probably a wise move.

I fell in love with a girl from Xalapa on-line. Her brother introduced us, and after 4 months I decided to move to Xalapa to see if things would work out for us. (We’re now married and have a daughter).
John Bokma from Johnbokma / MexIT

Nothing like love to encourage you to move countries. I have a friend who did something similar, but in the end he and his girlfriend moved back to the US.

Cheap living and agreeable women.
Michael Dickson from La vida bougainvillea

When we were in Mexico it seemed odd what was cheap. Things that we thought would be expensive were very inexpensive–like healthcare. Things that we thought would be cheap were expensive–like fruits and vegetables. I guess some might depend on where you live–Durango doesn’t grow a lot of their own food. Some of the fruit we were buying was actually imported from the US.

Poor health and financial pressures…
Jim and Mindy from Jim and Mindy in Rural Veracruz

The financial advantage of living in Mexico can be tremendous–especially if you can find a rural area and learn to take advantage of the things that are inexpensive in Mexico. Jim and MIndy seem to have done this well.

A thousand things. The immediate cause was retirement and the ability to do so. First among other things was a complete disgust with a lifetime of U.S. imperialism and the increase of fascism and militarization inside the United States itself. Secondarily Mexico attracts through the warmth of its people and what I perceive as a much healthier social atmosphere.
Lynn DeWeese-Parkinson from Tijuana Bible

In Mexico where we were at it was routine to find military roadblocks with soldiers armed with machine guns. I have seen less militarization in the US than in Mexico, but perhaps I was living in a place with an unusual amount of military activity. I would agree that many components of Mexican society seem to be healthier than in the US.

My wife’s a sociology grad student and is writing her PhD dissertation on “How Tequila became Mexico’s national drink”. Her research naturally led us to Jalisco, Mexico, home of Tequila and also the place we met 10 years ago when I was studying as part of my undergraduate degree in Spanish. We thought we’d only be there for a year but managed to extend the stay after she won various grants and scholarships.
Gwyn Fisher from Gwyn’s Blog

This has got to the be the most unique reason I’ve ever heard for someone to move to Mexico! That is quite a dissertation topic. My topic seems quite boring after reading yours.

There was no single precipitating factor, because the move was a natural progression for me.  When people ask why I moved to Mexico, my response is “Because I could.”
Jennifer J. Rose from Staring at Strangers